Legislature(2003 - 2004)

03/28/2003 03:18 PM House L&C

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HB 151-DWELLING DESIGN/CONSTRUCTION CLAIMS                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 0050                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ANDERSON announced  that the first order  of business would                                                               
be  HOUSE BILL  NO. 151,  "An Act  relating to  claims and  court                                                               
actions for  defects in the design,  construction, and remodeling                                                               
of certain dwellings; limiting when  certain court actions may be                                                               
brought;  and amending  Rules 79  and 82,  Alaska Rules  of Civil                                                               
Procedure."                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Number 0067                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KEVIN MEYER, Alaska  State Legislature, sponsor of                                                               
HB  151, testified  that this  legislation  gives homeowners  and                                                               
construction  professionals  a  process   to  work  out  building                                                               
defects without going through litigation.   This action is called                                                               
"a notice and opportunity to repair  process."  He said this is a                                                               
national  movement;  20  other  states  are  considering  similar                                                               
legislation;  at least  six states  have  passed it.   This  bill                                                               
requires homeowners to provide a  written notice at least 90 days                                                               
prior to  going into litigation  so that the homebuilder  has the                                                               
opportunity  to fix  the  defects.   In  Alaska, contractors  and                                                               
homebuilders are  required to have  liability insurance.   As the                                                               
result of  some [court] judgments, liability  insurance is harder                                                               
to get  and is very  expensive, he testified,  and unfortunately,                                                               
that  expense gets  passed onto  the  homebuyer.   Representative                                                               
Meyer said  he agreed to  carry HB 151  because it is  a consumer                                                               
protection measure.   The bill  allows for timely  repairs within                                                               
90 days.   Otherwise, if  people have  to go through  the courts,                                                               
resolution  [of the  problem] can  drag on  for years.   He  said                                                               
there is a  lot of motivation by the homebuilders  to get defects                                                               
fixed before the dispute goes to court.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 0252                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GATTO  moved  to  adopt  the  proposed  committee                                                               
substitute  (CS)  for  HB 151,  Version  23-LS0499\I,  Bannister,                                                               
3/27/03,  as the  working document.   There  being no  objection,                                                               
Version I was before the committee.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MEYER explained  the two minor changes  in the CS.                                                               
The language  on page 2,  line 1,  clarifies that the  bill deals                                                               
with a construction defect in  a substantially completed dwelling                                                               
or  a remodeling  job.   He said  the original  language was  too                                                               
vague and  needed to reflect  the wording  on page 2,  lines 6-9,                                                               
paragraph (b)(2).   The second change  is on page 6,  lines 2-18,                                                               
and requires  that statutory language  be added to  the contract.                                                               
This change  gives the consumer  and the  homebuilder information                                                               
on the statute that governs claims brought under this process.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 0412                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ROKEBERG  asked  if  the  "notice  of  claim"  is                                                               
preparatory to a formal court action or is it separate.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 0472                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
JOHN  BITNEY,   Lobbyist  for   the  Alaska   State  Homebuilders                                                               
Association, replied that HB 151  requires the homeowner to serve                                                               
a notice on or send a certified  letter to the builder.  Once the                                                               
defect is discovered,  the homeowner sends the  notice; this step                                                               
must be done before  a homeowner can file a claim  in court.  The                                                               
process  is found  on page  2,  lines 12-24,  "Notice of  claim."                                                               
Throughout  the whole  process,  if discussions  break down,  the                                                               
homeowner  always has  the option  of  going to  court, he  said.                                                               
Under HB 151, the builder has  the opportunity to get the problem                                                               
fixed before  litigation gets started.   Currently, the homeowner                                                               
is reluctant to  have any work at all done  on the defect because                                                               
it's  evidence  [in a  potential  lawsuit].    If the  defect  is                                                               
unhealthy, for  example, causing a  mold problem in  the person's                                                               
home, it's  important to get  the problem fixed [right  away], he                                                               
added.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MEYER  said that  when [a  problem arises  with] a                                                               
new house,  the homeowner  calls the  homebuilder, who  will come                                                               
over and  fix it.  There  may be times when  the homebuilder gets                                                               
busy; then  the homeowner  needs to put  the request  in writing.                                                               
Then the  clock starts, and  the homebuilder  has 90 days  to fix                                                               
the problem.  If it's not repaired, it can be litigated.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 0627                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROKEBERG asked when  the one-year clock begins and                                                               
if it includes the 90 days.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BITNEY replied  that according  to the  language on  page 1,                                                               
line 13, the claimant must notify  the builder within one year of                                                               
discovering the defect.  That year  must fall within the 10 years                                                               
after the completion of the  construction or remodeling.  The law                                                               
will still have the same 10-year statute of limitation.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROKEBERG  confirmed that the consumer  can bring a                                                               
complaint  within 10  years.   For purposes  of this  statute, he                                                               
only has a year to bring the complaint to the builder.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. BITNEY reiterated that the  complaint must be reported within                                                               
a  year  after  discovery,  within the  10-year  timeframe.    He                                                               
clarified that  if the defect is  discovered after 9 years  and 2                                                               
months, the consumer  has 10 months to notify the  builder of the                                                               
problem.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GATTO  asked how an unscrupulous  contractor could                                                               
exploit HB 151.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Number 0772                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
ALAN   WILSON,   Legislative   Group   Co-Chair,   Alaska   State                                                               
Homebuilders  Association,  replied  that   his  group  does  not                                                               
believe this [bill  gives homebuilders an unfair  advantage].  He                                                               
said that  nothing in HB  151 prevents a homeowner  from bringing                                                               
in an expert  to do further investigative work on  a problem.  If                                                               
the homeowner  asks the  contractor to repair  an item,  and more                                                               
problems  are discovered,  then the  homeowner can  still request                                                               
the contractor to fix additional  things; the homeowner can start                                                               
the process  again and again.   He  testified that a  majority of                                                               
homebuilders are  trying to  deliver a  quality product  and want                                                               
the opportunity to fix the problem rather than go to court.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GUTTENBERG  noted  that  this  bill  narrows  the                                                               
options of  buyers and  builders who  are abusers.   He  asked if                                                               
this bill establishes a lemon law for bad homes.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. WILSON replied [HB 151] does not go that far.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ROKEBERG   asked  Mr.  Wilson  to   describe  the                                                               
insurance  problems in  his industry.   He  noted the  example of                                                               
Chuck   Spinelli,  an   Anchorage  contractor,   whose  insurance                                                               
increased from $50,000 to $400,000 a year.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 0933                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. WILSON  said the bigger  issue for the  homebuilding industry                                                               
is insurance -  not so much the cost, as  the availability.  Some                                                               
builders have experienced a 600  percent increase in premiums, he                                                               
testified.  A few years ago,  a business could look elsewhere for                                                               
insurance and find another company  writing the same coverage for                                                               
less money.   Today, he said, there are only  two insurers in the                                                               
state  writing general  liability  policies  for the  homebuilder                                                               
industry.   The builder might get  a policy at a  higher cost but                                                               
with reduced coverage.  He  said that insurance companies are not                                                               
covering  mold  problems;  they're  not  even  willing  to  write                                                               
product  liability  any  longer.   He  said  that  the  insurance                                                               
industry wants  to see  action by  homebuilders that  will reduce                                                               
these lawsuits with high  awards.  He said that HB  151 is a step                                                               
in that direction.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Number 1004                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROKEBERG  asked whether this  bill is a  mini tort                                                               
reform  or an  alternative dispute  resolution that  benefits the                                                               
consumer.   He  noted  that  HB 151  prevents  the consumer  from                                                               
getting  attorney's fees  in court  if the  consumer rejects  the                                                               
homebuilder's offer  or doesn't  allow the homebuilder  to repair                                                               
the defect.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. WILSON replied  that HB 151 is a form  of alternative dispute                                                               
resolution.  He said that  experience shows that when these cases                                                               
go  to court,  the repairs  happen years  later; the  damages are                                                               
often greater  than they  were on  day one.   Often,  there's not                                                               
enough  money left  after the  court costs  are paid  to get  the                                                               
problem fixed.   That's unfair  to any  consumer, he said.   This                                                               
bill is really consumer protection legislation, he added.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 1071                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROKEBERG  asked how HB 151  will help homebuilders                                                               
in their dealings with consumers.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. WILSON  replied that  HB 151 forces  clients and  builders to                                                               
communicate, which  should resolve a lot  of issues.  He  said it                                                               
puts  consumers  in a  more  advantageous  position when  they're                                                               
dealing with builders.  The  bill allows consumers to avoid going                                                               
to court, which can be a costly and lengthy process.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GATTO mentioned  that 9  of the  12 letters  from                                                               
contractors  in his  bill packet  are  identical.   He said  this                                                               
looks like a campaign to get legislators to support this bill.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WILSON acknowledged  that his  association  sent out  sample                                                               
letters to its members.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ANDERSON added  that the letters show  that these companies                                                               
endorse the bill.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Number 1177                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DAHLSTROM  asked if HB 151  covers [building] code                                                               
violations.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WILSON replied  that code  violations  are typically  caught                                                               
during  the   construction  phase,  final  inspections,   or  the                                                               
certificate of  occupancy phase.   If a  problem was  missed, the                                                               
homeowner could address that as a defect.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GATTO said that previously  Rule 82, [Alaska Rules                                                               
of Civil Procedure,]  allowed the person prevailing  in a lawsuit                                                               
to collect  20 percent of  the settlement [for  attorney's fees].                                                               
He asked if Rule 82 is modified in HB 151.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 1236                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
TERRY   BANNISTER,    Attorney,   Legislative    Legal   Counsel,                                                               
Legislative  Legal  and  Research Services,  Legislative  Affairs                                                               
Agency, drafter of  the bill, confirmed that the title  of HB 151                                                               
amends Rule 82.  Language on  page 7, Section 4, starting on line                                                               
29,  indicates that  AS  09.45.889(b) also  changes  Rule 82  "by                                                               
allowing the court  to deny costs to a claimant  in the situation                                                               
described  in  AS  09.45.889(b),  even if  the  claimant  is  the                                                               
prevailing  party."   It changes  the  rule to  that extent,  she                                                               
said.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GATTO  asked if  the  bill  intends to  deny  the                                                               
prevailing party  the usual  right to have  some of  his expenses                                                               
paid by the losing party.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. BANNISTER  explained that  she can't speak  to the  intent of                                                               
the bill.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 1308                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GUTTENBERG asked  about the  language on  page 2,                                                               
line 21, referring to rules of  evidence and discovery.  He noted                                                               
that the legislature is trying  to encourage a resolution between                                                               
a contractor and a builder.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. BANNISTER said  this language describes what  a claimant must                                                               
produce in order to show [the builder] what [the defect is].                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GUTTENBERG  asked if  the court rules  of evidence                                                               
are  a higher  standard than  just saying,  "Here's a  picture of                                                               
what I found."                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. BANNISTER  said she doesn't  know if it's a  higher standard;                                                               
it's an ascertainable  standard.  If the rules  of evidence allow                                                               
the information [to be used in  court], the person has to [follow                                                               
that procedure].                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ROKEBERG  asked  if   this  is  a  mini-discovery                                                               
process.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 1392                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. BANNISTER agreed  that it's a discovery process  and the bill                                                               
uses as the criteria the [Alaska]  Rules of Evidence.  It's about                                                               
what [information] can be produced.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GUTTENBERG  said he  wants  this  to be  an  easy                                                               
process so two  people can say, "The faucet is  broken."  He said                                                               
he wants this  [conversation between consumer and  builder] to go                                                               
smoothly; he  doesn't want to  have somebody come back  later and                                                               
say, "You didn't follow the rules of evidence."                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ROKEBERG said  the sponsor  may want  to look  at                                                               
this issue  of using court rules  of evidence.  He  asked whether                                                               
there's a simpler method of [describing  the defect].  He said he                                                               
prefers that  before the claimant  hires an attorney  and follows                                                               
the court  rules, the person  will call  up the builder  and say,                                                               
"Hey, we've  got a problem."   And  the builder will  say, "Okay,                                                               
I'll come out and fix it."   He suggested this procedure might be                                                               
self-correcting.   He said  he doesn't want  somebody to  have to                                                               
hire an attorney to get the faucet fixed.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 1532                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ROKEBERG moved  to report  CSHB 151,  Version 23-                                                               
LS0499\I, Bannister,  3/27/03, out  of committee  with individual                                                               
recommendations  and  the committee  fiscal  notes  that will  be                                                               
provided.  There  being no objection, CSHB  151(L&C) was reported                                                               
from the House Labor and Commerce Standing Committee.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                

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